MARS AND VENUS
Lest we think gender clashes only happen in the poetry blogosphere. E.J. Graff at TPM Cafe comments on the politics of gender lately here and notices:
" . . . that when we write about feminism or women's issues, we get truly vicious commentary, far worse than when we write about anything else. Personally, I was shocked to discover how much more verbally violent the response is on on women's issues (even simple things like equal pay) than when I write about gay issues. The anti-women hate mail is much much worse than the antigay hate mail. Why would you think that is? I honestly don't understand this phenomenon."
A civil discussion at Lee Herrick's blog has restored my hope that Mars and Venus can get along. Thank you Lee for being one of a few men who haven't deemed this issue unworthy, silly, irrelevant, not worth their time, etc.
And thank you Reb for not backing down despite personal attacks, and for insisting that you should be allowed to make your points without having them be twisted and used against you.
" . . . that when we write about feminism or women's issues, we get truly vicious commentary, far worse than when we write about anything else. Personally, I was shocked to discover how much more verbally violent the response is on on women's issues (even simple things like equal pay) than when I write about gay issues. The anti-women hate mail is much much worse than the antigay hate mail. Why would you think that is? I honestly don't understand this phenomenon."
A civil discussion at Lee Herrick's blog has restored my hope that Mars and Venus can get along. Thank you Lee for being one of a few men who haven't deemed this issue unworthy, silly, irrelevant, not worth their time, etc.
And thank you Reb for not backing down despite personal attacks, and for insisting that you should be allowed to make your points without having them be twisted and used against you.
posted by J.B. Rowell at 2:20 PM
4 Comments:
Glad to see you highlight the issue again here. It needs to be heard. I said my piece on Lee's blog and see that you read it there.
Will miss you at MySpace, btw
Oh, see my last comment about Michael Parker's use of my last name in his post. I know you were kidding on my blog, but as I posted again to him, had he written an article about a man..Ginsberg, Bukowski, Chandler, etc. the last name usage wouldn't have even been noticed.
Hi Pris - Happy Easter - hope you're wearing your bonnet today!
I think I am too OC and boring for MySpace . . . I know I'll still see you and a few others around.
Actually, I wasn't really kiddiing about your last name - you made an excellent point Campbell.
Julia
...then Campbell it shall be:-) Actually, I kept my maiden name when I married at a time when only the radical feminists were doing that(which I wasn't). For me, it was simple. I liked my last name. I was the last on my father's side to carry it since he had two sisters and I wanted it.
You weren't too boring for MySpace. It does take time, but I limit my posts to my poems. I also mine the free downloads when I find some of the older artists I've loved and their music is still all on cassettes.
I like how you carry on the family name Campbell. :)
I took my husband's last name and tacked it onto my last name. And he took my last name and added it to his since he had no middle name. Confusing eh? I mostly didn't want to give up my Irish roots - Bailey.
I'll still be visiting you and a few others in MySpace . . .
Take care,
Julia
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